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Title: Yet another newbie...
Post by: NoShoes on February 22, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
Hi folks,

I'm prepping a 96 pug 306xsi to go 2kcup racing... having previously owned an xsi i have a soft spot for them (plus i couldn't locate a gti-6 at the time....)... looking forward to being involved on the forum :-)
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: Mungous on February 22, 2015, 01:04:28 PM

Quote from: NoShoes on February 22, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
Hi folks,

I'm prepping a 96 pug 306xsi to go 2kcup racing... having previously owned an xsi i have a soft spot for them (plus i couldn't locate a gti-6 at the time....)... looking forward to being involved on the forum :-)
Welcome along - there's a few of us on here that are doing the 2kCup thing. The XSi is a sweet handling little thing - it is speed through the corners that really counts!

Shame you missed out on this 6: http://2kcup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=134&start=210#p4243

Are you going to be at Taupo next weekend?
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: NoShoes on February 22, 2015, 10:53:58 PM
Cheers!  Hoping to be at Taupo... If I can get the brakes replaced in time... Currently the car's up on stands....
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: Mungous on February 22, 2015, 11:11:11 PM
Brakes are easy - are you just upgrading pads and replacing the fluid?
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: camera doctor on February 23, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
Welcome along, I do the 2K Cup thing in the South Island with a 205GTi

I'm a slow bugger, definatly at the thick end of the field, but having lots of fun learning.



Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: NoShoes on February 26, 2015, 05:56:34 PM
Cheers - disks, pads, and fluid.... retracting the rear piston caused some headscratching.... unwind and push was the answer.

Brakes sorted now, entry confirmed, tyres tomorrow, and up to taupo.  Please say g'day if you are there!  :)
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: rolly on February 26, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Sweet! Another 2kcuper.

Although I race a Honda  :-[

It is a super fun series. If you have any questions let us know.
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: Mungous on February 26, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
I'll be looking out for you - and I'm easy to spot as no-one else is mad enough to race a hydraulic Citroën!
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: camera doctor on February 27, 2015, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: rolly on February 26, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Sweet! Another 2kcuper.

Although I race a Honda  :-[

It is a super fun series. If you have any questions let us know.


:D :D :D

https://www.facebook.com/2kcupsi/photos/p.782708695137410/782708695137410/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/2kcupsi/photos/p.782708695137410/782708695137410/?type=1&theater)


::) ::) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: Mungous on May 14, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
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Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: rolly on May 14, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Mungous on May 14, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
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Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: MYRUSH on May 14, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
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Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: NoShoes on May 14, 2015, 09:06:37 PM
Aaaargh!  What to do?  I've already comitted to buying PDub's gti shell and spare bits.... my original plan being to cage the shell and keep running the xsi in the meantime while i build up a new race car around the shell - basically i need an engine and box and it's good to go, which can be all done for around the 2k mark.   But i'm also hearing the warnings... so plan b, i just build the gti into a road car, which doesn't solve my 2k woes... i'm waiting to see what the bbq committe says.  The shell is registered, so i don't see how it differs from a car with a blown motor, or the rebuilds, repowers or replacement engines going on in 2k... but we'll see.... i'm going to go back to them with a project plan and a build budget - demonstrate the 2k spirit ;)
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: camera doctor on May 15, 2015, 10:18:56 AM
In the South Island I think the 6 speed ones are not allowed ?? Is it the same in North Island ?

If you are going to run a xsi rather than a S16 I'd be making sure you baffle the sump - a 306xsi turned up at round 5 in Timaru, came in after a few laps Nunga Nunga :(

Not sure if the 16valve suffers the same ?
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: DRTDVL on May 15, 2015, 11:33:51 AM
The xu series all suffer from the same oil surge issues.  The gti6 just got a small trapdoor setup to help.  It's not good enough... 

You will want to make / get something proper.
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: Mungous on May 15, 2015, 12:29:49 PM
SOHC XUs don't seem to suffer the oil surge problems as much as DOHC ones for some reason. The speculation is that the twin cam head retains too much oil and doesn't drain quickly enough, so the level in the sump drops and then the oil pump sucks air.

The later DOHC XUs have addressed the problem to some extent with enlarged drainage galleries in the head, and windage trays and baffles in the sump (the Mi is the worst for oil surge, and the GTi-6 the best). Heath is hoping the totally revised EW has the problem properly sorted!

The standard 205s in the 2kCup have had no oil surge issues I've heard about, but every standard XU9J4 does. Marc's 8v XSi should be fine, as long as he runs good oil and keeps the level up! Not sure about the oil control systems in the standard XU10J4, as found in the later 306 XSi.

The GTi-6 has been run in the NI (3-4 of them in fact) but they've now all disappeared. The Committee is still seemingly undecided about them, but that's where I'd go if/when Whitey explodes in flames.
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: NoShoes on May 15, 2015, 12:48:21 PM
Cheers! To date i haven't noticed any issues - oil pressure and water temp don't seem to shift... although i'm not really looking at gauges mid corner.... perhaps its because an 8v xsi (or my driving) isn't anywhere fast enough to generate surge :o

Kent from the bbq committee initially said yes to a 6..... and 30mins later.... no, as he needed to check.... nothing buy crickets since.... starting to think they want an integra series..... :-)
Title: Re: Yet another newbie...
Post by: rolly on May 15, 2015, 12:59:52 PM
A 6 should be allowed as they have been before. Especially since they haven't walked away at the front like the ek4 of Tysons did.

Building ANY car from parts is questionable, even more so when the cars are borderline 2k as the 6 is.