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Title: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 13, 2015, 10:11:28 PM
Hi Guys, I have just bought a 1997 Megane Coupe with the F7R engine with the intention of racing it in the 2KCup. Shes done 200,000 kms but still has what seems like a very strong engine. In fact I find it surprisingly quick for a little 2.0, both in a straight line and in the twisties. 
Any way looking for the heads up for optimum wheel alignment settings for the track if anyone has set one up previously.

The car has new Koni Strts shocks and I will be putting new Dunlop Direzza 2's, 205 50 16's on it.

Any help appreciated from the cognoscenti appreciated.
Cheers
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: BigPete on May 13, 2015, 10:16:25 PM
Welcome. Very interested to know how you get on because I had similar ideas a couple of years ago. I test drove one and found it surprisingly quick and agile but was outbid on the auction.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: rolly on May 13, 2015, 10:20:15 PM
Welcome,

Good luck with it. be great to see a Renault out there! Like Pete I didn't get a shoe on on one a while back. It sure is a fun game to be in
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 13, 2015, 10:50:20 PM
Thanks guys.

Yes well I got very lucky in buying this car. It was listed for around $2500 3 or 4 months ago and got no takers. I just happened to look on line again without having looked in the Renault section for months, only to see it re-listed for $1800. I rang to see if he had been trying to sell it since I last saw it or if he had just re- listed. He told me he had just put it back on that day and he had 2 guys on their way around to look at it, so I jumped the gun and bought it then and there sight unseen. Had to bring it up from CHCH tho'. But for $1800 its a hell of a buy. It is in extremely good condition except for the drivers seat which would need recovering if it wasnt going to get swapped for a race seat.

If I could figure out how to post a pic I would. It looks great in yellow.

Alignment figures anyone?
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: MYRUSH on May 13, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
G'day Glenn :)
Heres a thread on how to upload pics and post them off your ride :)
http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,238.0.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,238.0.html)
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: Mungous on May 13, 2015, 11:50:36 PM
What alignment adjustments are possible on it? For a lot of European cars (my BX included) you can only adjust toe-in (unless you get a bit creative with a port-a-power or something). I run about 2mm of toe-out, for what that's worth...
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 12:33:45 AM
Well I managed to get the pics on Photo bucket but damned if I can see how you can export them to the FF web page. The problem of being on the wrong side of 50 and being techno challenged.

Mungous maybe your are right and only the toe out is adjustable, which obviously limits options. I'll have to check. Thanks.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: MYRUSH on May 14, 2015, 12:42:41 AM
Right click the image on photobucket and select view image. Once there, copy the URL link and then when making a new post, click the Mona Lisa looking picture and paste the link in there.

Should look like this once done - [img]Insert your link in here[ /img]
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 12:54:30 AM
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/364005101.jpg) (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/fastfrogs/media/364005101.jpg.html)

you just like this?

Not too pretty really.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: rolly on May 14, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
Score!

Jelous much? Yes, yes I am.

I don't know if they are the same chassis setup as the Clio, but if so you will be able to adjsut the front toe - and that is it!

Unless you shim the rear. Again if it is anything like the quality of the Clio the rear toe needs to be corrected and go neutral or toe out depending on your prefferences. As much as I love my euros, both the Mazda Lantis and the Teg have rear toe adjustament which is awesome for fine tuning the car to how you like to drive.

Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: KITSorGTFO on May 14, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
Shit my mums got one of these, wonder if she will notice if it lived a double life as a 2k cup car
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: Lincooln on May 14, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
awesome man, welcome aboard, I have always liked these, just a little less than a 19 16V, but the 2.0L make sit more cool  8)
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 09:12:26 PM
(http://[url=http://s236.photobucket.com/user/fastfrogs/media/364012615.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/th_364012615.jpg)[/URL]/img]

Hey if your mum has one of these then she is pretty hip. They certainly have plenty of mid range punch from about 3500 rpm. More than what most mums would want....

I have a new set of Direzza 205 50 16's arriving tomorrow, to be fitted to a set of lightweight Enkei 5 spoke alloys. Won an auction for an OMP BIG seat today on TM, and it is being fitted tomorrow. Have ordered a set of Tarox pads, braided SS lines and K&N filter from England. Bank account is taking a beating but all needs to be done to give it a chance against the multitude of Hondas and of course the 205's. What time would any of you 2Kcup guys think this would be capable of with a hot peddler behind the wheel?
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: Mungous on May 14, 2015, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 09:12:26 PM
(http://[url=http://s236.photobucket.com/user/fastfrogs/media/364012615.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/th_364012615.jpg)[/URL]/img]

Hey if your mum has one of these then she is pretty hip. They certainly have plenty of mid range punch from about 3500 rpm. More than what most mums would want....

I have a new set of Direzza 205 50 16's arriving tomorrow, to be fitted to a set of lightweight Enkei 5 spoke alloys. Won an auction for an OMP BIG seat today on TM, and it is being fitted tomorrow. Have ordered a set of Tarox pads, braided SS lines and K&N filter from England. Bank account is taking a beating but all needs to be done to give it a chance against the multitude of Hondas and of course the 205's. What time would any of you 2Kcup guys think this would be capable of with a hot peddler behind the wheel?
You've really just got to try to catch me!   ;D

Forget about trying to catch the fast group - the Tegs are just too quick out of the box.  I usually get into the back end of the quick group with about a 1.26 around Hampton Downs - my car has a good power to weight ratio, but poor torque and rubbish handling.  You should be able to get pretty close to me: http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel919-446.htm (http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel919-446.htm)
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 10:30:42 PM
Damn, I was hoping it might be a bit more competitive than that. Well I have Mike Eady going to take it for a spin this Tuesday without the good picks installed, but with the new rubber. It will be interesting to see what he can do.

So how does the 205 beat the Tegs? Light weight?

Well my car is not short on torque and I think it handles ok. Haven't really pushed it yet as I want to keep my licence.

I'll just have to do my best to see if I can keep your exhaust pipe in my sights.  ;D
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 10:39:45 PM
Check this you tube link out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrNMOMS9zc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrNMOMS9zc)

Its a 2.0 megane 16v doing 0-60 in 6.5 secs. Mine seems similar as best I could time it whilst holding my cell phone..... :P

I think renault are very conservative in their specs.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: rolly on May 14, 2015, 11:19:35 PM
yeah nah - don't think that video is a standard f7r and standard is how we roll in 2kcup.

Lets just say that the top 5 cars did not comply to the rules. But it is in the past and the new Tech committee will help a lot to stamping out the technical breaches that have gone unpunished for the last season.

You should be on the pace of a 306 gti but not much more. I would guess 1:24/5's at Hampton downs with a good driver. With an ace driver, I have no idea.

I am as fast in my Honda as I am in my Clio 172 which has exhaust, remap, bilstien B14's, whiteline ARB and the same tyres.
The Hondas are just fast out of the box. 1:22's. The Levins are not far behind. It will certainly be interesting to see the 205's in legal config. I hope they will still be in the 1:23's

Torque is awesome out of the corners, but top end counts up that hill especially. Also the jappers have LSD's as standard options. Boy does that help in the wet.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 14, 2015, 11:34:10 PM
Well I guess the LSD is one of the big advantages of the Hondas. It seems that it would be more than fair for all cars to be allowed to run a slippery diff, it would level out the playing field a bit. Otherwise its just going to be a poor man's honda cup. And whats the fun in that?
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: Mungous on May 14, 2015, 11:35:09 PM
The 205s at the front do benefit from being lightweight, and also from having pretty damn good drivers. But the preparation of those cars is what really sets them apart - they always say motorsport is a game of inches and tenths, and there isn't many parts of those cars that haven't been fully optimised. Full credit to the guys who prepared them - but many competitors are out there to buy into some cheap thrills without spending heaps of time and money (which, fundamentally, is the ethos of the class). If one was really worried about finishing near the front of the field, then I'd say this class isn't really the right fit. It's easier on the bodywork being further back as well!
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: sirrocco on May 15, 2015, 12:23:34 AM
No, I am not going to go down that road with this car. I will get it in decent race trim without spending too much time on it. I am intrigued tho as to how competent this little car will be around the track. Hopefully will be fun when pushing it. I love my E36 328 around Hampton, very very forgiving and balanced. Its a fine thing.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: rolly on May 15, 2015, 08:11:30 AM
LSD plays a bigger part in the wet - not so much in the dry. Not like we run plate diffs!
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: ReonH on May 15, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
Rolly, what was not standard on the 205's?
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: rolly on May 15, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
Bilstein shocks - Motorsport ones to boot. Shocks have to be OEM equivalent.
Title: Re: Renault Megane 2.0 16V Coupe Wheel Alignment and Intro
Post by: Mungous on May 15, 2015, 01:10:43 PM
Maybe I'll buy some Bilstein nitrogen for my spheres!  No-one will ever find out...