Should have got around to this site earlier...
I've got a 106 rallye clubsport that I've owned since 1997. Donald knows me well as I keep blagging parts off him!
It's essentially unchanged since I bought it in terms of specs-Roll cage taken out and rallye shocks put back in to put onto road, then new exhaust when the race one rusted out (not that I noticed the noise change).
Bloody marvellous little car, never taken it racing as my skills never would keep it in one piece-might be tempted later though. Have a mate with an ex-rally of NZ clubsport also.
Previously my GF now wife had a 205 GTi 1.9 (japanese spec). Had better midrange grunt, but couldn't come close to the rallye's cornering.
i love 106 rallye's i want one so bad!
yes yes pics plz
106 Rallyes are the shizzle :D
This is driving me nuts. Who can help a noo b post pics?
Keeps coming up with: Cannot access attachments upload path...
email them to me, dynofiend@hotmail.com ill host them for you
Go to http://imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us) and upload it there. It'll take you to a page with heaps of options - go right to the bottom where it says click for advanced stz and DO NOT USE THIS ON FORUMS. But use that one that they tell you not to use ::) and put (img) before it and (/img) after it except with square brackets. Then pics will magically appear in your posts.
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Will try your plan V8pete next time I try to flick some shots up
pics
(http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/dynofiend/NZ1061.jpg)
(http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/dynofiend/NZ1062.jpg)
(http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/dynofiend/NZ1063.jpg)
(http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/dynofiend/NZ1064.jpg)
ARRHHGG i want one ::)
Hey there, i'm the guy at hell pizza with the 205 GTi, delivered pizza to you a couple of times and talked to you 'bout your pug =D. I briefly mentioned the site but you might not of caught it 'cos I was in a rush due to late deliveries, on the upside i was in race mode, enjoying grey lynn's awesomely fun (albeit dodgy) backstreets =D. I often slow down and admire your 106 when i drive past =P
That's a great looking car. Please forgive my ignorance but 106 Clubsport and 106 Rallye what's the difference ? are they one and the same ?
Cheers
Not ignorant-they start the same. It only refers to the NZ registered cars. As I understand, the story goes: When they were brought out in 1994ish only a couple of dozen series 1 rallyes were brought in. About 20 or so of these were kitted out identically by Edgil motorsport as a "race spec" clubsport and were registered with LTNZ as 106 clubsports whilst the standard rallyes are registered as 106 rallyes. The few of those 4-5 were sold with the original suspension, ECU & steel wheels. The race clubsports all had motoforms put on as they were as sponsor for the "?Peugeot cup" race that was run, but because the original steelies are apparently better many race cars have gone back to the steel wheels in subsequent racing. The other way to pick them is that they ride lower at the back (redone rear suspension torsion bar & set lower-I think makes them less prone to understeer) and have bonnet clips (unless they've been shunted in which case a repaired bonnet might have them taken out). The race spec also involved cage, a race chip, race exhaust, uprated suspension and seals placed on a variety of bits like the throttle body to ensure no-one had a power advantage. Even so, some of the cars did tend to lap a bit quicker than others.
Since that time, a few more rallyes have been imported but probably just as many have been written off racing. I know of mine, a mates ex-rally of NZ car, one driven by an asian girl (prev in Newmarket-she kept being mistaken for my wife, but I think hers is/was a standard rallye), the guy in Welly & Don's 3 or 4 rallyes in various degrees of mobility. There's a rolled one on TM presently as well as a competition car. Also seems to be 3-5 each time Targa comes around. All the of the ones on the road have the red interior with red seatbelts. My mate's ones interior is virtually mint, but mine's been loved on the road for the past 10 or so years so it's not quite as good. Some prat sideswiped it a couple of years back, so I used the insurance payout to use toward sorting out the front wing repair that wasn't sorted right, a spot of rust around the windscreen (common to all 106s) and a full respray. I have a auto signwriting company that have the decals sorted if anyone needs them. Don't get them thru Peugeot, they cost a fortune
A couple of years ago they were going for about $6K on TM but now they seem to be appreciating-the comp car is going for about $9K and I saw one advertised for $10K not that long ago. It didn't last long so I assume it sold at that value. I paid $16K in 1997 so it has done pretty well for depreciation...
A Rallye went in an auction here in welly about two months ago for less than 5k.
Lowering the rear of a 106 actually increases understeer, but for a track/rally car, this is desirable, as the lift off oversteer in standard suspension spec is quite severe, and could easily catch out a driver on the limit and end their race! The extra understeer just makes the car more predictable, easier to drive on the limit, but a little less fun. I guess the uprated torsion bars would redress this balance to some degree. Another factor with trailing arm rear suspension, is that the roll centre is basicly at road level, so the more you lower it, the less roll you get. This isnt really the case for MacPherson struts, and the geometry of these doesnt react well to lowering, especiall taking the steering arm angle into account!
Cheers
Always wondered about that-I seem to remember a good article on suspension in 106rallye.co.uk-was that yours? It would fit with the inability to unstick the rear unless I really provoke it in the wet.
As for the prices...always good to have one's reality balanced
It might have been my article, I have absorbed alot of 106 related stuff over all the years Ive been messing around with them :D
mattt and dynofiend many thanks for that a lot of good info there. With specific regards to the body shell, is the one on the Rallye/Clubsport factory strengthened ?
Nope, its one of those myths that floats around that it had strenghtening as standard. In fact the shell is absolutely identical to every single 106 on the road with the very minor exception of having holes on the rear arches to stick the arch extensions in. What the Rallye shell does have in terms of strengthening/stiffening, are two small bars which connect the upper part of the front chassis legs, to the firewall. But then XSi's also have these, and so do GTis, and they are removable and can be fitted to all 106s if you are so inclined :)
I had been told they were also-something to do with the roll cage, but I'd defer to dynofiend's knowledge on these. I'm not sure if the clubsports had anything specific done in addition to the standard rallye-Don would know-he's played with enough of the clubsports, standard rallyes & XSis to know. Otherwise, if you are in AK-ask Greg Kent. He's the best guy to get all the pug's of the 205/106/306 era serviced/repaired with if you can't do it yourself and he was involved with the Bill Tapper race car when it was in the Cup.
Nope, I can assure you nothing added for fitting a roll cage, not at the factory anyway.
The real problem with that theory, would be the plethora of different roll cages and their various fitments, making any 'universal' roll cage fitment mounts a bit pointless :-\