Hey guys. I used to frequent here a few years ago – a fun community. So I'm looking at an NZ new 207 gti with the cam chain changed under the recall and has low kms and is NZ new. I know these engines and a joint BMW pug venture and are damn awesome to drive. Tell me if they are worth buying or not and what are possible common things that go wrong?
Thanks in advance guys! Look forward to joining this community!
Hiya, welcome back then 8)
207 GTI is relatively unloved by Pug enthusiasts as it was seen as a bit of a 'soft' gti, but still a lot of fun I would imagine. Hopefully one of our in-trade members can give some perspective on maintenance issues.
I'm guessing that you're not in the market price range for a 208 GTI , but they certainly have had a lot of good reviews.
Welcome!
You didn't used to drive an Alfa 147 by chance?
Quote from: Pee Dubbaya on August 17, 2016, 07:48:18 PM
Hiya, welcome back then 8)
207 GTI is relatively unloved by Pug enthusiasts as it was seen as a bit of a 'soft' gti, but still a lot of fun I would imagine. Hopefully one of our in-trade members can give some perspective on maintenance issues.
I'm guessing that you're not in the market price range for a 208 GTI , but they certainly have had a lot of good reviews.
Cheers! Yeah all I have heard is that the timing chain is the issue but this one has it replaced and only has 51,000kms on the clock. I've read some good and bad about them but I think the bad is just based on the French car reliability stereotype. I owned a problem free Alfa 147 td for years with the dreaded selespeed and it was fine despite the stereotypes over that too.
Quote from: rolly on August 17, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
Welcome!
You didn't used to drive an Alfa 147 by chance?
Yes! And I still have that fantastic photo of your Clio chasing my 147. That was a fun cruise!
Quote from: curts_nz on August 17, 2016, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: rolly on August 17, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
Welcome!
You didn't used to drive an Alfa 147 by chance?
Yes! And I still have that fantastic photo of your Clio chasing my 147. That was a fun cruise!
Haha, awesome. Welcome back (as such). Hope the family is well?
Hi Curtis.
There are a few imports here too, a mate is selling a GT, it doesn't have the GTI's seats but same mechanical, his is Superchipped and goes hard.
Quote from: rolly on August 18, 2016, 08:21:43 AM
Quote from: curts_nz on August 17, 2016, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: rolly on August 17, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
Welcome!
You didn't used to drive an Alfa 147 by chance?
Yes! And I still have that fantastic photo of your Clio chasing my 147. That was a fun cruise!
Haha, awesome. Welcome back (as such). Hope the family is well?
Family are very well thanks! How about you. Good to be back too
Quote from: RS on August 18, 2016, 09:10:28 AM
Hi Curtis.
There are a few imports here too, a mate is selling a GT, it doesn't have the GTI's seats but same mechanical, his is Superchipped and goes hard.
I've read on uk forums owners having a lot of issues. Is this just worst case scenario that only comes about in forums? The main issues stem from the recalled timing chains, no? So having that changed on a 51,000km old engine should be the business?
Hmm and I'd be keen on more of that GT too.
Im biting my lip here... but I was offered a Megane R26 in Liquid Yellow today.. so I jumped on Youtube and watched a "hot hatch of the year" shoot out from 2007-8.. out of 15 odd cars the Peugeot was dead last and hatted by everyone.
From what I can gather, the 207 is more a warm hatch.
Im catching up with the guy selling the GT tonight, will ask him for more info. It looks nice, silver with black leather etc.
From what I've read out of the box the 207 just doesn't have the same dynamic handling as other hot hatches, but the engine is a cracker. A good 8/10ths car, but not so good at 10/10ths (unless modified).
I'm just going to leave this here:(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160819/e72084f1724bbecb30f527611df1b127.jpg)
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I'd really like to see something different on the forum, so if you like it curts then go for it :D
Would love to see a mod to RCup look...
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Quote from: RS on August 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
Im biting my lip here... but I was offered a Megane R26 in Liquid Yellow today.. so I jumped on Youtube and watched a "hot hatch of the year" shoot out from 2007-8.. out of 15 odd cars the Peugeot was dead last and hatted by everyone.
So how much are you selling the Clio for?
Quote from: numbers_ on August 19, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: RS on August 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
Im biting my lip here... but I was offered a Megane R26 in Liquid Yellow today.. so I jumped on Youtube and watched a "hot hatch of the year" shoot out from 2007-8.. out of 15 odd cars the Peugeot was dead last and hatted by everyone.
So how much are you selling the Clio for?
I don't have a Clio anymore, sold it last year.
Im hoping this R26 pans out, they are cool cars.
This is the GT that my mate is selling, he has used it as a daily driver for a few years and it goes well.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm)
Quote from: RS on August 19, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: numbers_ on August 19, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: RS on August 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
Im biting my lip here... but I was offered a Megane R26 in Liquid Yellow today.. so I jumped on Youtube and watched a "hot hatch of the year" shoot out from 2007-8.. out of 15 odd cars the Peugeot was dead last and hatted by everyone.
So how much are you selling the Clio for?
I don't have a Clio anymore, sold it last year.
Im hoping this R26 pans out, they are cool cars.
This is the GT that my mate is selling, he has used it as a daily driver for a few years and it goes well.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm)
if you dont mind me asking, how much is he asking for the r26?
Quote from: RS on August 19, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: numbers_ on August 19, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: RS on August 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
Im biting my lip here... but I was offered a Megane R26 in Liquid Yellow today.. so I jumped on Youtube and watched a "hot hatch of the year" shoot out from 2007-8.. out of 15 odd cars the Peugeot was dead last and hatted by everyone.
So how much are you selling the Clio for?
I don't have a Clio anymore, sold it last year.
Im hoping this R26 pans out, they are cool cars.
This is the GT that my mate is selling, he has used it as a daily driver for a few years and it goes well.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-1144179211.htm)
This looks great, unfortunately I am in Auckland.
Cheers all, so the consensus is that the 207 is a fine car and the stigma of issues surrounding such a car is all myths? Your mate hasnt have issues with his being a daily RS?
Quote from: curts_nz on August 22, 2016, 08:20:34 AM
Cheers all, so the consensus is that the 207 is a fine car and the stigma of issues surrounding such a car is all myths? Your mate hasnt have issues with his being a daily RS?
I think that the issues are all reasonably well known and most cars will have already had them fixed - but would pay to check in the servicing records. Not really any more issues than similar age models of other brands/models.
The more I read the more I want one to replace our daily!
http://www.turners.co.nz/Cars/Search/Peugeot/207Sport/15565134
They're coming out of the woodwork now!
https://trademe.co.nz/1158786196
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Horrible colour!!! Kermit come puke...
Quote from: curts_nz on August 22, 2016, 08:20:34 AM
so the consensus is that the 207 is a fine car and the stigma of issues surrounding such a car is all myths?
To keep one of these turbo ep6s on the road you will be spending at least $1200 a year on maintenance, with a 50/50 chance of a major spend at random..
Common issues:
Hi pressure fuel pump failure, resulting in in misfiring, no power, no start => Roughly $1300 to replace. (Can happen repeatedly)
Inlet ports carboning up, results in misfiring, no power => Roughly $1200 to walnut blast. (WILL happen repeatedly)
Outlet tank failure, resulting in overheating of engine, no heat in cabin, => you take you pick at what it kills, upgraded tank $1000
Noisey and early failure of dual mass flywheels, results in Chewbakka wookie noise and vibration => $2800 replaced
4 speed BVA automatic gearboxes are terrible and fuck out from brand new but I expect if you are looking at a GTi it'll be manual.
So no definitely not a myth....
If you like the 207 shape I'd be going for a manual HDi, they're a much better driving experience, more reliable, much cheaper to run and maintain and in my opinion a much more fun and responsive engine to drive.
Speaking of which:
http://www.turners.co.nz/Cars/Search/Peugeot/207/15571812
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