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Title: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 24, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
Need cheap daily car for me as wife up the duff & loses company car. 3-4k to spend & have test driven some 306's (94xr,95xr & 99xt), never driven pug before but now I want one! Car's I've driven so far little rough & unsure about when cam done etc. Am I being realistic trying to find something reliable for this price? Would love to hear from anyone who know's of something available with man tran's,even if slightly higher price than budget mentioned (stil working on the missus). Thanks!
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 24, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
Welcome to the forum.

I agree 306es have a great balanced, solid feel to them even in the non-sport-spec spongey suspension versions. XRs should be cheap as chips especially 94/95 but very low-spec. I'd definitely recommend getting at least an XT or 'Style', ideally XSi if you're presumably looking for a 5-door. What part of the country are you in?

Automatics are ticking timebombs.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 24, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
In Auckland.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 24, 2011, 07:17:32 PM
Have you seen this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-368167397.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-368167397.htm)
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 24, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
Yeah thanks. Little worried at 176k cam belt may be due again sooner rather than later. Have Txt them to view so guess will find out hopefully.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: gtistee on April 24, 2011, 08:33:07 PM
mate is selling a slightly tatty 3dr style..
1800 manual in burgandy..
bout 4k i think, can ask him for you if ya like
its in christchurch btw.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 24, 2011, 08:51:42 PM
Thanks gtistee but think I'd like to buy local, cheers.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: you wont get parts for it mate on April 24, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
don simons got the renault fam wags?
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Thor on April 25, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371525798.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371525798.htm)

here u go. just listed. you should have a look at this asap cos:

v cheap, in auckland, ph2, rolling on steels, 1.8, cambelt done. + woodgrain trim jap spec bonus ;D.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 25, 2011, 10:16:36 AM
Wow. Let me know if you don't want that.

Edit: I'm going to have a gander at 1 pm. He said someone else is having a look at 12 so I'll see what happens.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Thor on April 25, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
if one snoozes, one loses.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 25, 2011, 11:06:28 AM
Thanks Thor had a test drive yesterday. Lot of minor bits wrong, but certainly don't expect perfection for that price, infact prev ad was asking 2800 ono notice its now 2200 ono. Older eastern european guy with poor english and no evidence of cam being done just didn't get a good feel about it. Maybe I missed a bargain as it seemed to drive ok.

P.S. Cant wait to see your new movie, but I bet Brad wont be as magnificant as the real you :)
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 25, 2011, 11:32:10 AM
What were some of the things wrong with it?
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 25, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
Ripple in drivers door, ran a magnet over it and didn't stick so well in couple of spots. New section in exhaust with some dried gunk either end of joint's, didn't look to professional. Rear left window motor poked. Door lining material coming away on most doors and some other cosmetic bits. Battery cover loose, but just looks like new battery to big. Oil looked a little dark. And dead bird between bonnet and lining was a bit weird, but thats gone now. As I said it seemed to drive ok no visible smoke but  no evidence of when cam done. Was on for 2800ono and thought about offering 2k but language barrier very difficult to get thru. But i'm no mechanical expert and maybe too cautious might have been ok for price.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 25, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
Cheers. I think I'll cancel my appointment. Do you reckon he's backyard mechanic wheeler dealer-ing it?
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 25, 2011, 12:33:01 PM
Not sure to be honest. He told us he had to go back to Europe in a month and kept telling us to speak to his son about any details. Way ad was worded was diffently not written by him after speaking to him, english not that good. We had to wait 10 mins for him to turn up after txting him when we arrived at given address and he wasn't there. He stalled the car turning around in the drive when he arrived which made me wonder how familar he was with the car. This said not sure if just plain dodgy or it could have just been his age and language barrier but as I said earlier it just didn't feel right. But not so confident myself buying new cars as no expert so prob a case of being over cautious on my behalf also, but better being anal than buying a lemon I guess. But it is pretty cool what you can learn on the web in a week or two.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: sexyBerlingo on April 25, 2011, 03:42:39 PM
you wana buy a berina with 49,000kms on the clock?

cam belt has not been done. :D
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: pugMi on April 25, 2011, 03:43:43 PM
only been jumped once :D
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: sexyBerlingo on April 25, 2011, 03:52:29 PM
ya what? same as this but a 1995

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Holden/auction-370938574.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Holden/auction-370938574.htm)

my grandma has had it since it was like 3 months old and done an average of something like 8km per day
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: CaM on April 25, 2011, 03:55:20 PM
give you a ute for it
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: pugMi on April 25, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: sexyBerlingo on April 25, 2011, 03:52:29 PM
ya what?

this one?  ;D

Quote from: sexyBerlingo on April 18, 2011, 06:03:09 PM
coming down to get my grandmas barina haha. 1995 with 40,000kms lol. I did a massive jump in it once down a flight of like 4 stairs into that courtyard thing down by the boat house thing by te papa where my auntie got married with the little lake thing. Then i couldnt get out and had to drive up some steps and over a lawn. Was confused by wellingtons one way ness and thought steps were a ramp

Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 25, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
I wish my grandma had sold me her last few cars instead of trading them in. She buys a new Mitsi Mirage every time a new one comes out and gets like $500 for a ~6-10 year old one. She rolled Barinas when they were Isuzu/Suzuki but didn't trust them anymore when they went German so switched to Mitsi :D
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 25, 2011, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: sexyBerlingo on April 18, 2011, 06:03:09 PM
coming down to get my grandmas barina haha. 1995 with 40,000kms lol. I did a massive jump in it once down a flight of like 4 stairs into that courtyard thing down by the boat house thing by te papa where my auntie got married with the little lake thing. Then i couldnt get out and had to drive up some steps and over a lawn. Was confused by wellingtons one way ness and thought steps were a ramp

Is it orange with confederate flag on roof??? Think I might pass thanks.

BigPete: Guessing you didn't look at XT today? If you did interested to know your opinion if you did.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371578700.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371578700.htm) Like this but owner not had cam done since she owned it, how do I tell as it's import ? Or is it basically bit of a lottery if nothing to prove it?
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 25, 2011, 04:35:08 PM
Didn't look at XT.

Cambelts aren't a biggie to do or have done on those. It'd be good insurance to have it done when you buy it.

I'm too much of a cheapskate to pay that for a 1994 XSi. I'd probably try to find something newer if I was wanting to spend $3-4k on a 306.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Don Simon on April 25, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: steved on April 25, 2011, 04:30:20 PM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371578700.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-371578700.htm) Like this but owner not had cam done since she owned it, how do I tell as it's import ? Or is it basically bit of a lottery if nothing to prove it?

Two things give it away for me straight away - jap spec floor mats and jap no plate holder on the rear.

another tip is to look on the rego slip on the windscreen
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: you wont get parts for it mate on April 25, 2011, 05:02:43 PM
drum rear?
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 25, 2011, 05:08:48 PM
Thanks Don but sorry question was regarding cam alredy knew it was an import.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: CaM on April 25, 2011, 05:17:58 PM
regarding cambelt: factor it into your pricing. there's plenty of jokers on here that'll do one as a cashie, or even work for garages that'll no doubt do a fair price to have the work done. it's not as much of a job as people will have you think.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Pee Dubbaya on April 25, 2011, 08:03:20 PM
Are you set on a 5dr? Have a top-spec 98' GTI-6 (3dr) that I may be willing to part with. Average cosmetic condition for a 200k vehicle, but mechanically is ok- engine in good condition + cambelt recently done. May be more than what you want to spend though.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 26, 2011, 05:46:41 AM
Hi Pee Dubbaya. 3 or 5 door as long as its manual. Price & pics? steved [at] woosh.co.nz thanks.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: sexyBerlingo on April 26, 2011, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: CaM on April 25, 2011, 05:17:58 PM
regarding cambelt: factor it into your pricing. there's plenty of jokers on here that'll do one as a cashie, or even work for garages that'll no doubt do a fair price to have the work done. it's not as much of a job as people will have you think.


yeh can get it done for a couple hundred if its just changing the belt and you get trade on belt and a guy to do cashie. Costs around a grand if you pay full price and get all the other things around same area done at same time.

got quotes for my laser once from a few places cos it was winter and raining er day and i had nowhere to work on it. Then i wrote it off like a week later

Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Slifer on April 26, 2011, 05:01:47 PM
steve if you're looking at a 306 and want a guideline on price here is something you can base your decsion on

I sold my 1996 306 xsi a couple months ago.

-1996 306 xsi
-Manual.
-83,000 kms.
-had wof and rego.
-cam belt had not been done.
-overall good cosmetic condition.
-Mechanically sound and runned well.
-import

I sold for $3500 which i thought was fair.

In other words that 1994 blue xsi is asking for a bit much compared to what i sold mine for. hope this helps somewhat
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 26, 2011, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Slifer on April 26, 2011, 05:01:47 PM
steve if you're looking at a 306 and want a guideline on price here is something you can base your decsion on

I sold my 1996 306 xsi a couple months ago.

-1996 306 xsi
-Manual.
-83,000 kms.
-had wof and rego.
-cam belt had not been done.
-overall good cosmetic condition.
-Mechanically sound and runned well.
-import

I sold for $3500 which i thought was fair.

In other words that 1994 blue xsi is asking for a bit much compared to what i sold mine for. hope this helps somewhat

Thanks Slifer, shame I didn't start looking when you were selling.

Went to see the 1994 Blue XSI this afternoon, shit pictures on net make cars look much better than in the flesh. White crap under oil cap which according to The Dog & Lemon Guide is suspect head gasket and overall average condition, very disapointing.

But not as disapointing as travelling to Hamilton this morning to view http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=342328089 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=342328089). Listed in Dec and daughter has been using it since, I think the last time it was cleaned was for photo's in ad! FILTHY inside and out! And so many faults also 20k more on the clock than ad states. PISSED OFF!! Shame car wasn't as tidy as the daughter.

Would suggest if anyone was thinking about looking at either not to bother.

The hunt continues  :(
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: CaM on April 26, 2011, 07:53:49 PM
do't read dog and lemon guide. the guy that writes that is a complete idiot.

if it's milky but not massivly under the cap and the person only uses the car on relatively short runs then there's nothing untoward on peugeots. if you show them and tell them it's potentially a bhg it'll get you a discount though hah.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Pee Dubbaya on April 26, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: awatt on April 26, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
One time I met a guy who gave his diesel 405 wagon to his daughter to borrow. When he got it back from her, the left-hand side was stoved in, the ignition was broken, the car had been run out of fuel several times, and the engine wouldn't start.  :D
Haha yeah "oops sorry dad!". Was a thread about that eh- probably deleted by now.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Pee Dubbaya on April 26, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
Oh and Steved we're all pretty open on the forum about buying/selling etc. so I'll just post here.

My 306 was previously on the market but pulled it after lack of serious interest. Which is ok because I'm not in a huge hurry to sell it- it's too much fun to have around!
It is a 1998 GTI-6 (167hp + 6speed) that I've had for about a year. A really fun and pretty damn quick car. It's black, lowered, average cosmetically but pretty good mechanically. Has done 215k now, cambelt done when I first got it. Was listed for $6500 but realistically wanting $5500.
Pics are in this thread in the forum
http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,5055.0.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,5055.0.html)

Honestly though, this may be a better option
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-364843880.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-364843880.htm)
Standard height = more comfort for the missus, pretty low kays and it's a good price. Someone from Welly can probably check it out for you if you want, but I'd hazard that with those kays it's been looked after and serviced regularly. If that's the case then should be a good buy. Factor in $50-100 airfare and some gas $ to drive to Aucks, and you'll be away laughing...


Edit: Jap spec S16 = GTI-6 with slightly lower level of trim.
NZ spec S16 is a much poorer motor imo, you really notice the difference and I reckon you're better off going for the 6speed tbh.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 26, 2011, 08:29:42 PM
Showed seller the print out about white stuff and he didn't seem too clued up like me and he's moving overseas so was gona see if he sell's and if not he might take something I think would be more realistic for condition. But good to know that white stuff not critical cause that the main reason I wasn't that keen on it.

Only got on D&L guide via carjam and review on 306 was pretty bad but didn't put me off them, great too get another opinion. Glad I stumbled across this site thanks everone for your input at this rate I'll be an expert before I buy one!  :)
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: you wont get parts for it mate on April 26, 2011, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: steved on April 26, 2011, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Slifer on April 26, 2011, 05:01:47 PM
. PISSED OFF!! Shame car wasn't as tidy as the daughter.


HAHA
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: CaM on April 26, 2011, 08:40:58 PM
yeah if you can get a good idea of wha they do when they've got a blown headgasket then it'll make it easier to discern what's a goodin and what's not. pugs have such weird cooling systems that it's sometimes hard to tell.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: steved on April 26, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
Nice car Pee D. but me thinks it deserve's someone with far more mech skills and/or finacial resources to maintain and complete cosmetics. Oh and I already have 10 & 12 year old boys and with them in the back  would prob go through too much rubber it's that low  :D

Already picked one in Wlgt as one of the better ones on TM certainly keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: CaM on April 26, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
immensely. it doesn't actually means there's anything wrong, though, y'know.
best you take a geezer with you that knows his stuff :)
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: Pee Dubbaya on April 26, 2011, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: steved on April 26, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
Nice car Pee D. but me thinks it deserve's someone with far more mech skills and/or finacial resources to maintain and complete cosmetics. Oh and I already have 10 & 12 year old boys and with them in the back  would prob go through too much rubber it's that low  :D

Already picked one in Wlgt as one of the better ones on TM certainly keep an eye on it.
Ha I don't really have either well sorted! Plan is to strip it down and slowly rebuild, fixing the little imperfections that piss me off. Should be interesting. If nothing else I hope to at least get my hands dirtier than I have previously!

Yeah just make an offer of say $3000, should be able to get it at a steal for 3500-4000...
Title: Re: I'm I doomed to drive a jappa?
Post by: BigPete on April 28, 2011, 08:01:23 PM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-372207806.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Peugeot/306/auction-372207806.htm)