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General Category => Introductions => Topic started by: timbo 206gti on June 21, 2010, 02:03:26 PM

Title: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 21, 2010, 02:03:26 PM
Hi new 206 gti 1999. Standard car. I am looking for some essential modifications. I am looking to take this car on track days.

Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 21, 2010, 02:07:26 PM
I would say step one would be some good tyres. Or even some lighter, track day wheels with semi's on them. Slap 'em on when you get to the track then swap back to the normal wheels when you go home.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: k-trips on June 21, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Hello Tim- great to see a new member- whereabouts are you from and what brought you to this site?
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Will Fill In Later on June 21, 2010, 02:36:52 PM
Probably want to look at better compound brake pads and decent brake fuild as a starter. 

You will need to mount a fire extinguisher in the car within reach of the driver for 90% of trackdays in nz.

Flick Targa180 a pm as he's racing a 206 gti 180 and might be able to point you in the correct direction for mod's based on what he's done for his car.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 21, 2010, 02:40:10 PM
^was going to be the next thing I recommended :)

Really? I've only heard of needing a fire extuingisher for proper events rather than trackdays
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Will Fill In Later on June 21, 2010, 02:48:19 PM
It comes down to the track and the organizers.

Every track day i've been to either driving or helping has been mandatory helmet, 100% cotton overalls as a min, and a fire extinguisher.

I think playdayontrack.co.nz don't require a fire extinguisher either.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Carpentry on June 21, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
Are you an experienced driver?
Perhaps some motorsport driving lessons would be helpful to maximise your car as it is. Learning braking and exit points is free (but I guess lessons aren't). It will also let you utilise further modifications you plan to make.

Then again, you may already be a budding Michael Schumacher in which case making the car stick better with tyres and stop consistently with upgraded brakes and fluid is a great idea, as these fine gentlemen have suggested.


Also,
Welcome to the site :)
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: 2052NV on June 21, 2010, 06:37:37 PM
Cool. Good to have a newer car in the ranks!

Post some pics of you car please!!

Also how did you find out about our wonderful corner of the internets?
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 22, 2010, 11:29:18 AM
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/125552565_full.jpg)

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/125552576_full.jpg)

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/fastfrogs/125552567_full.jpg)

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Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 22, 2010, 11:30:45 AM
as you can see very stock. I have a K&N filter to come and some track day tyres at home ( not sure the k&n does anything but I like the placebo effect!)
Breaks have a shudder under moderate breaking. Is this common? Should I skim the rotors? is there an over ABS feel to these breaks?
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 22, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Sweet whip.

I would be looking at having the rotors checked, or just replace em.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: pugMi on June 22, 2010, 02:03:11 PM
nice wee car and looks good in that colour. welcome along.

also, put an Mi in it/nah
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: 2052NV on June 22, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
is that a sunroof i spot? havent seen a sunroof on a 206 gti b4  :o
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 23, 2010, 09:50:37 AM
sun roof is half the roof space! really good. This car has grown on my everyday ! There is just a bit of a falt spot in the car between 3-4.5k reves then above that it loves it. Problems with the radio today though, CD changer thing not working , think the CD palyer is shorting out or not installed properly.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: camera doctor on June 23, 2010, 10:14:18 AM
Welcome !


Snap ....    Your car is the twin of mine !!

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Matilda12472/Greg/0517200904570.jpg)

Luckily mine came over from Jappaland with Eibach springs and Koni shocks!!  Loves to corner  ;D
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: weezernz on June 23, 2010, 04:47:29 PM
Welcome Timbo!

Interestingly, the trackday I went to last year down here in Christchurch was really lax compared to some of the previous posts in here. I had to have a helmet and covered shoes, that was it! I wore t-shirt and shorts. They also told us to chuck out any loose stuff before we set out. I felt safe at the time, but maybe I shouldn't have?!
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 25, 2010, 12:15:43 PM
Yo yeah I am more keen on them letting you loose so you can have fun on the track. i went to hampton downs and it was choice. I am installing the k&N filter tonight then first big drive tomorrow. Rain is not cool! Looking at other mods later but this car is so fun just loving it at the moment.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 25, 2010, 12:19:34 PM
^Is it a panel filter or did you get a 57i kit?
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 28, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
I just got panel filter. Not much difference that I can tell.

I have just got the dealer to agree to do a cambelt change as is clearly in need of one. (told me all the services were up to date) What are the things to look out for? Also change water pump etc?

Also I have a non-functioning computer so no trip info, no idea when lights on auto etc. The thing shows the date and time and that is it. What can I do? What is normally wrong with these?

Any ideas of people in Auck that might be able to help.

Also what size tyres should I be running. The 185/55/15 looks really skinny, what is the max diameter I should run?

What will I be looking at for new front rotors?

Thanks

Tim
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Griffe on June 28, 2010, 04:09:47 PM
What year 206 GTi is it?  02?  What dealer did you purchase it off?  Have you tried pressing the end of the wiper stalk?  That will scroll through the trip computer info one line at at time

To turn the auto lights on you have to hold the button on the end of the indicator stalk for eith er 3 or 6 seconds, it will then bring up a message on the dash that will say something like 'AUTOMATIC LIGHTING ACTIVATED' Etc
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 28, 2010, 04:23:45 PM
If you are looking at sourcing the rotors yourself talk to Isaac at speed.co.nz

He's really good and the pricing is very fair
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: CaM on June 28, 2010, 04:32:13 PM
or get brembo premiums from bnt for half the price.

Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: aerorobnz on June 28, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: timbo 206gti on June 28, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
I just got panel filter. Not much difference that I can tell.

I have just got the dealer to agree to do a cambelt change as is clearly in need of one. (told me all the services were up to date) What are the things to look out for? Also change water pump etc?

Also I have a non-functioning computer so no trip info, no idea when lights on auto etc. The thing shows the date and time and that is it. What can I do? What is normally wrong with these?

Any ideas of people in Auck that might be able to help.

Also what size tyres should I be running. The 185/55/15 looks really skinny, what is the max diameter I should run?

What will I be looking at for new front rotors?

Thanks

Tim

My RS172 runs 195/50/15s (standard size) so I'd expect you could do those without too much issue. I know the Bridgestone RE11s & Toyo R888s come in that size - I did ponder with 205s, the tyre guy I went to recommended I stay on 15s when I told him I was wanting to replace the wheels.

Apparently these are the various tyre dimensions for the 206
MY99-MY01 185/55 R15V
MY01-MY04 205/45 R16Z
MY03-MY04 GTi180 205/40 R17W.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 28, 2010, 04:39:35 PM
the car is an 1999. nothing happens in the trip comp what ever I press. Looks like it has been deactivated? I will try the tip with pressing the wipers.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: k-trips on June 28, 2010, 04:40:24 PM
keen to buy 185 55 15's if you are going to sell them..

I have 195-50's and they just rub on bits of my BX gargh!! 185's could be poifeck!!
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 28, 2010, 04:46:10 PM


Ok I will look at the brembo rotors and then look at the larger tyres. Will be aiming for a track day on the 25th of July.

Cool - this is one helpfull site!
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 28, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: CaM on June 28, 2010, 04:32:13 PM
or get brembo premiums from bnt for half the price.

You reckon speed are overpriced or BNT are just really cheap? BNT wanted quite a bit more than Toyota when I went for a clutch kit and cambelt
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Carpentry on June 28, 2010, 04:50:49 PM
Some Peugeots have problems with rubbing if the tyres are too wide; you can't run 205's on a 205 for example. 195/50/15 is pretty standard so I would recommend at least moving to those for a small improvement.
Perhaps you can swap your 185/55's for KK's 195/50's
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: k-trips on June 28, 2010, 05:06:47 PM
Two of my tyres are not worth swapping as the tread is minimal on the outside edge of each.
The two with good tread are a bit hard in the rubber but a good fang round a track should soften them up..

I will gladly swap the 2 of my 195's with good tread towards the cost of 4 of purchasing your 185's.... (my 2 good 195's are worth no more than $30 each which is what I paid a month ago for them)

Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 28, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
my tyres are from tyre works in grey lynn and cost $55 bucks each last week. Will prob use them at the track tyres then go for the bigger 195's  as they are all balanced etc.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: k-trips on June 28, 2010, 05:55:42 PM
for brand spankers??

Holy shit - I'm keen for some of them...
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
na was 80% tread. But perfect for a track day!

Any ideas where I could take the car to look at the central computer issue? Or are the eletircs on these not worth playing with?

Cheers,
Tim
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: cammmy on June 29, 2010, 09:27:39 AM
Where are you matey?
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 09:59:52 AM
In Auckland the city of rain and crappy traffic.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: targa180 on June 29, 2010, 10:13:53 AM
Quote from: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
na was 80% tread. But perfect for a track day!

Any ideas where I could take the car to look at the central computer issue? Or are the eletircs on these not worth playing with?

Cheers,
Tim

If it's a 1999 it doesn't have a trip computer just a time/date display, also no automatic lights or wipers. The trip computer only came in when they introduced multiplexed wiring from 2001.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 10:27:44 AM
ha ha perfect thanks!! does appear to have auto wipers though...
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 10:30:10 AM
what about door open light/fule warning light etc ? someone took the stock radio out so that has affected the little radio column thing.
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: Will Fill In Later on June 29, 2010, 10:32:01 AM
Yeah if you remove the factory stereo you will lose the stalk controls.

You can buy an adapter to fit some head decks to retain this functionality
Title: Re: New 206gti owner
Post by: timbo 206gti on June 29, 2010, 03:57:14 PM
whould

307 peugeot tires size 205/50/17

Fit? on Trademe for 300-400 bucks with tyres!