Hi all, Just got myself a '95 spec 306 S16, was looking for a GTI-6 and still am if anyone wants to sell for the right price. Gonna use the next 9 posts to tell you all some more so I can get on to the classified's!!
The 309 Gti was a road rally spec car in the UK and I thought I would see if an S16 was any better.
So the S16 needs a few things to get it back to a tidyish spec.
So far I have found a rumbling knocking clunk coming from the front nearside, I only picked it up on Saturday so am yet to investigate further but I think it will be either, wishbone bushes, bottom ball joint, wheel bearing, track/tie rod end or anti roll bar link (which I can see is already rooted).
It is also missing the dipstick, stereo, rear parcel shelf, washer bottle cap, piece of trim just inside the boot that covers the id plates, jack and handle and a sensible exhaust system.
and it has also had a cheap crappy pod filter added which has left the battery assembly floating around, a rubbish go faster gearknob and a towbar!!
Oh and it needs a bonnet stay.
and it has been completely de-badged.
and the small piece of side trim on the front left wing has broken one of the clips.
Yay, made it!! 10 posts now lets go shopping...............
Quote from: Ric Chalmers on August 06, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
lets go shopping...............
Sale of the Century - Let's go shopping! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3vYSaNhLM0#ws)
That's just a dirty Mitsy not a Fast Frog!!
Could be keen on towbar if you don't want....
Maybe, I would need to get a new back bumper if I removed the towbar as it would leave a hole where it used to sit!! and its great for rear chassis rail stiffness, not!!
Quote from: Ric Chalmers on August 06, 2012, 09:17:50 AM
So far I have found a rumbling knocking clunk coming from the front nearside, I only picked it up on Saturday so am yet to investigate further but I think it will be either, wishbone bushes, bottom ball joint, wheel bearing, track/tie rod end or anti roll bar link (which I can see is already rooted).
Check the top engine mount and cradle. S16s and GTi6s are notorious for it. Do a search on here and you'll find out more. We had to repair mine as soon as I'd bought it.
Hi Gold'n The top engine mount is on the right side of the car and the noise is coming from the left front, I think it could also be top mount bearings as it clunks more when the left side of the car is unloaded, have jacked it up and tried to find it but everything (except the a/r bar links) feels nice and tight. I will try and get it on a hoist this weekend and have the wheels hanging to investigate further. Cheers.
Welcome to ff. :)
I would personally advise checking under that mount
for peace of mind. I've done mine as it was starting to fracture
but I've seen pics of others that were a hell of a mess. Not hard to remove
to have a look and catching it early would probly work in your favour.
also while the car is on the ground grab that front left and rock it toward and away from the
car rigorously. If it starts knocking its the drop link.
Cheers Benny,
Which mount are we referring too?
The top one gng mentioned.
id take a squiz just to be on the safe side.
By the time it shows symptoms its already pretty knackered.
as she also mentioned, plenty of reference material on here
To look over regarding that mount. :)
Quote from: Ric Chalmers on August 07, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
Hi Gold'n The top engine mount is on the right side of the car and the noise is coming from the left front, I think it could also be top mount bearings as it clunks more when the left side of the car is unloaded, have jacked it up and tried to find it but everything (except the a/r bar links) feels nice and tight. I will try and get it on a hoist this weekend and have the wheels hanging to investigate further. Cheers.
Ah ok - you said "near side" which, having once been a horsey person, I took to mean "the side you mount from" which would translate to the driver's side with a car. LOL
Check the engine mount cradle anyway as Benny advises - it is almost a given in a S16 or GTi6 at around 150 000km. Even my 306 xsi did it..... I must be too lead-footed on the gas :o
(I've repaired this problem in both my old XSI and my current GTi6. In fact the 6 was so bad that my mechanic wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. My husband had to buy a mig welder to do the job. Turned out to be a bloody expensive repair! ;D)
Sorry Gold'n'Girl, nearside is near the kerb side and offside is the side closest to the center line, this saves confusion about drivers side on left hookers!!
Put some new anti roll bar links on and turns out the nearside one was rooted, however I can now hear a noticeable clunking every time I come on and off throttle so I suspect the lower mount is gone, as you said. Nolathane don't do a urethane one but Powerflex list one so might have to do some internet shopping, or might just make it a solid mount with the old welder!!
"Near side" does come from the horsey world though - mounted soldiers always mounted from the left so that their swords didn't hit the horse's flanks as they got on (obviously being a left-handed soldier was frowned on). As chivalry thrived on rules, they did everything from the left side - so it became "near".
id recommend a standard stiffness mount if your going to put a new one in. as the hard ones transfer ALOT of vibration and i found for a road car they were neigh on unbearable, i had a full set of group n mounts on my 205 and couldn't stand it so changed them all back to new standard ones
Before you order any bits I would check that top mount,
I'm fairly certain that will be what your hearing now you have done the drop links.
Get someone in the car with hand brake on and blocks under wheels to operate clutch repeatedly in first while you look under bonnet
from drivers side and you will probly see and hear quite clearly if that top mount shot.
^^^ agree