Hi to all,
Looking at finally buying a 205 GTI. A friend owned one way back in high school and from then on I've been interested in owning one, but it's never happened.
I joined the site to get an idea of Pugs in NZ, and hopefully if I buy one I'll be on here regularly!
Cheers
Phil
Welcome - I can assure you that 205GTi is the quintessential car around here - although BX's are beginning to overtake.. ;D
We have a disgustingly twisted sense of humour and are thoroughly weird creatures - take a look in the events section we have and that will give you an idea - I'm sure you will have a hell of a time when you join in...
Whereabouts are you?
Gday mate welcome!!
205's are awesome lil cars, I have owned 4 in my lifetime and still have 3 of em
If youre patient a decent one will show up at the right place, if youre handy with a spanner then they pop up all the time but most of em require a bit of loving :)
Welcome to the circus!!! Mixed in are some gems & GCs to point ya in the path of least resistance. Enjoy.
Hello.
A wee warning: Don't EVER buy a french car. Your life as you know it will never be the same! get out while you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seriously though, have a look around, buy a goodin if you can, and come to this forum for insight/outsight/to be poked with a stick of liquid encouragement to make your future mobile into something that'll become the best vehicle you ever owned, despite it's idiosyncrasies, failings, and let downs. 205s make the world go round.
Hello
I was gonna say that ::)
welcome, then
Thanks guys. Looks like a great website ;D
Bought the 205 last night for $2200 which seemed like a good deal. I've had my eye on them for a few months so I was pleased to pay low. Here is the link to the auction if your interested: www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=302224756 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=302224756).
Summary: 1.9, 117k miles, new wof, front disks replaced, cambelt changed at 110,000miles, new muffler (loud as all get out), reconditioned starter motor and alternator.
(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab337/NZ_PUG/136821385_full.jpg)
It goes really well but has a slight miss when cold. Ill get stuck in this weekend. My friend drove it from Tauranga back to Hamilton with me following and jumped out exclaming "that thing is a rocket!" Must say I expected a few rattles inside but whew! There are hundreds! ;D
This is my 26th car but first French one! Have drifted towards Euro's in the last few years and have had three BMW's, one M-Benz, an Audi and a Lancia (god the lancia didnt end well :( ) Now just to sell my E30 BMW.......
It'll be a fast daily driver and occasional track car.
Cheers,
Phil
Sweet!
What Lancia did you have?
A Thema turbo. Really wanted a Delta but couldn't find a good one. The Thema went well but wasn't too pretty, it shared the type 4 chassis with the Alfa Romeo 164, Fiat Croma and Saab 9000 (thanks wikipedia). A month after buying the cambelt broke even though it was replaced 20k ago (I verified this). Very skeptical of Italian cars as a result.....
Italian cars/French cars only seperated by a border
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Well I'll cross my fingers that they share more in common with German cars then Italian! Had better luck with them :)
Grr have been reading around and disappointed that Jap spec imports (like mine) came lower specced :( I wondered if that was the case when I saw the rear drums last night.
Never to mind, within a week you'll be wanting to upgrade to 309 front and rear subframes, later model brakes and an Mi16 motor anyway....
read Don Simons build fred and you'll get the idea... :) http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,110.0.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,110.0.html)
PS - I am from the BX not 205 camp so not sure what all that guff means but I have the distinct impression it all adds up to AWESOME!!!
doit
yeah they're lower specced but you can bring them up to lush capacity.
joe/goat's one has all the lush stuff now. his started off as a grubby auto low spec shitmobile.
Quote from: NZ_Pug on July 15, 2010, 09:09:39 AM
Must say I expected a few rattles inside but whew! There are hundreds! ;D
;D they came as factory optional extras
Quote from: Eyebrows Mulligan on July 15, 2010, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: KK-Kolonel on July 15, 2010, 11:04:07 AM
and an Mi16 motor anyway....
DON'T YOU DARE!!!
take one from an Mi16X4. no one likes those anyway :P/nah
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:D
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehh
I bet that breath is fragrant!
Less than a week I'm afraid ;D
Maybe the smart thing to do is a full tune, pads and fluid, extinguisher, strip carpet etc (but not a full strip, still daily driven), seat & wheel then take it to the track and see how it goes. Don's build thread is good reading. Man I do love getting a new project! ;D
If heading to the track I would definately look at sump baffling first.
I would go in this order:
Full service
Sump baffling
Uprated tyres (possibly a set of track day tyres on trackday rims?)
Uprated pads and fluid
Ask the fast master but yeah, I would definately take care of the sump first.
Quote from: Eyelashes Mulligan on July 15, 2010, 02:30:05 PM
If heading to the track I would definately look at sump baffling first.
I would go in this order:
Full service
Sump baffling
Uprated tyres (possibly a set of track day tyres on trackday rims?)
Uprated pads and fluid
Ask the fast master but yeah, I would definately take care of the sump first.
not wanting to start an arguement here, but:
I can understand the baffling of 16v engines that are used for track duties or epic fast roading. even then, it doesn't always help and/or the oil surge problem is often not even discovered on the stock item. it's not THAT much of a problem imo.
8v engines do not seem to have any problems in this regard. I know this from experience. On track, and on the road I've never had any problems. I don't think this man should be worried about a problem that wont present itself. It's a pretty big thing to sort out when it's not even needed. I could throw mine aroudn the taupo short track all day, cocking a rear wheel, and generally pushing as hard as I possibly could, and i never had a single issue.
^ Cool.
It's just been pressed on me that with the 16v you absolutely have to look at baffling the sump before hitting the track. I just figured that the 8v would be similar but if not then sweet.
Baffling isn't that big of a deal for the kind of setup I have done, pretty cheap too.
Thanks for bringing it up. Not too keen to trash my motor on the first track day.....but it is going to be an often used trackday car, especially with all the open days Hampton Downs is having.
Working on some track tires and wheels atm (prob. Pirelli P6000 for my first day as I've got access to some v cheap, then R888's), and will be in touch with racebrakes.co.nz for their package 4 setup. Also considering an oil cooler & stripped a/c for first day.
Out of interest, Eyelashes Mulligan did you baffle a 16v or 8v? How did you setup? Point me to a thread if their is one.
Cheers
I just made a moderating faux pas. sorry. I'm an IT guru it would seem
Cammy posted a link ( http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,4015.195.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,4015.195.html) ) among other things.
I don't want to be a nazi but i think talking of baffling sumps on 8vs is unwarranted, as in, there's little to no point. Make a tech thread if you'd like more opinions and stuff but I think you should try not to get confused on the stuff that doesn't matter.
Welcome aboard, again. I didn't want to delete posts and stuff in here but I think we've got a little carried away for an intro thread.
cheers
Cam
Also, change gearknob & pedals asap please tnx
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:D thats just blatant vandalism...
mean another 205!
there sooo much fun on the track and cam is rite no baffling needed on 8v. been to many track days with mine and never had a problem with it!
your going the rite way aswell by sorting tyres and brakes FIRST!. Im rolling p6000's at the mo and there a good tyre very progressive at limit but i think i have destroyed them now as i did this to them 3 times :D
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still rolling with 5mm tread left FTW.
What are you looking at doing/planning for your brakes??
What the hell is 'Package 4'?
205s weigh bugger all and brakes from some larger Peugeots bolt up so there's no real neccesity to spend megabucks on brakes.
Quote from: Renick on July 15, 2010, 05:44:27 PM
Also, change gearknob & pedals asap please tnx
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Don't worry about that there already changed ;D Besides those crimes the car is pretty much standard save exhaust and (a very dirty) pod filter.
Re brakes:
"Summary. For around the five hundred dollar mark, RACEBRAKES 0800BRAKES can set up your existing brake system to a point where we can guarantee that you will not outdrive your brakes on the road or on the track. This is what we call a Package 4 upgrade and consists of a front and rear friction and fluid upgrade. Package 4 Front and rear friction and fluid upgrade $450 - $600"
Read the novel under "brake upgrades information pack" @ www.racebrakes.co.nz/competition.shtml (http://www.racebrakes.co.nz/competition.shtml)
All that said I went for a spirited drive last night and with the new front rotors the car has it's brakes are great for road use.
Thanks 2052NV, perhaps I'll save the Pirelli's for road tires and wait to get some R888's or similar before going to the track. Have you had any issues with cooling at the track?
*Cam please let me know if I shouldn't ask that q in here and should start a new thread. Want to be a rule-abider on the forum.
Cheers
All good asking here - feel free to start a build/update thread in here though
http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/board,16.0.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/board,16.0.html)
There aren't too many rules here ;D If you do happen to do something wrong generally someone will just point you in the right direction.
266mm or 283mm rotors and calipers can be had from $150-$300 depending on where you go, some wreckers have them, ask around on here for a list.
23.8mm master cylinder (the biggest that will fit) is $170 from trade parts part no. 202-233 (I think)
Dunno about fluid.
for the master cylinder try adl i got mine for 100 bucks. just call in there with cash at lunch on a sa and theyl take anything.
dont think its worth getting bigger brakes tbh.... you just get to much braking power at the front of a light car which renders the rear brakes pretty much useless.
I think what your doing will be the best, easiest and will give you the most results! :)
how handy are you mechanically??
Good to hear. I'm handy mechanically, finally finishing a cert in auto engineering (for interest not professional use) and just finished converting an E30 BMW auto->manual (abandoned the project to get the 205). Have completed engine swaps, conversions, resprays etc over the years. Zilch experience with any French cars though.
Well the brakes seem strong enough for road use @ least, so plan of attack is to tune the car up (missing at low rpms), sort out intake etc (not sure if you can see in photo) and go from there.
Since this will help the pug's progress,if you happen to know anyone after aforementioned E30 coupe, send em here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=303063668 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=303063668)
After driving the pug for a few days then getting back into the E30 this morning it feels terrible!!! Not driving it anymore. The pug feels as quick as my Sub Legacy RS TT, but without any lag or VOD! Loving it ;D
Ps. looking for a downloadable workshop manual but the links to rapidshare on this thread: www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,270.0.html (http://www.fastfrogs.co.nz/index.php/topic,270.0.html) are broken.
Does anyone have a fresh link? Cheers
Here's the haynes manual bud:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6zeon0stohf (http://www.mediafire.com/?6zeon0stohf)
Its full of lies but meh, gives the just of whats going on
Cheers ;D