Hey guys
Yes I like cars
Current fleet is VW polo 40v V8
Alfa166
Skoda ute
And I'm very interested in finding a Pug 106
Are they in the same league as VW mk1 golf's?
Welcome Lee.
Hi Lee
Where you from?
I'm in Morrinsville Waikato
Are there local pugs around here?
As a newbie I can't get into the For Sale section yet but I am looking for a 106...anyone?
Cheers
Welcome !
VW polo 40v V8 ...... really !! Love to see some video of that running :)
Saw the project thread on VASK. That thing is mad! No 106's for sale on here that I know of im afraid, but they do pop up every now and then.
What sort of 106 are you after? GTi, XSi, Rallye, Diesel spec :P ?
Yes the Polo is fun...
I have just put ITB's on it.. which has slightly reduced the low down torque but increases the top end to around 400 horses
But very easy to drive
I am looking for a 106 for the family shopping basket so nothing fancy
106's are to my mind a very balanced design and these things are important to me...
I had a 406 coupe for awhile and I loved the look.... but very hard to live with
Cheers
Welcome, 106's are great as a runaround. Find an Xsi - there are a few about.
Just been playing around on T/M and the 3 door 206 is remarkably similar in shape to the 106
Is there much difference?
Frog impressionists...
Yes the 206 is slightly bigger and a fair bit heavier. They drive quite differently - 206 is fairly stable, 106 is quick and nimble in comparison. I'd recommend driving both to see which is preferred. Having driven both I personally prefer the 106 - a lot more involving to drive.
Another personal opinion.
I purchased a new Clio RS over a new 206 gti180 because it was a more involved drive. And have since modified it over the years of ownership.
Now that I have a 106 gti as well - it is even more fun than both of them. Not as fast in a straight line, but even more fun because it turns in so well with bascially zero weight.
I suspect however that a few well chosen mods on the 106 will have it just as quick as the Clio (which is quicker that a 180).
NB: I am a car whore, I have no brand prefference and simply buy what apeals to my senses and heart more for the dollars I have to spend.
Also test drove a 206 GTi180 and didnt like it. Felt too high and a bit too much body roll. Low amount of feeling that the car is an extension of the driver. Love my 106 though, love driving every second in it
Body roll Pat? Was the one you drove knackered? One that I/gf had was quite stiff & fairly well controlled in roll. I preferred it's setup to Pete's Clio 200 Cup actually.
You certainly feel more connected to the car driving a 106 8) Miss mine a little already :'(
Thanks guy's
Just looking at the Citroen AX gti
How do they compare with the 106?
AXs are made from recycled shopping bags, and held together with the saliva of Gauloises smoking peasants. They weigh so little that they often blow away in light winds.
But they are not in the same class as the 106 - the 106 is a modern hot hatch that somehow isn't really heavy (although still about 150kg lardier than an AX). The AX is a product of the 80s - you would NOT want to have a crash in an AX.
tl;dr: AX is light and flimsy fun, 106 is better all rounder.
Thank you indeed for the advice....I will be looking for a 106 after all your comments
cheers
Ax GTi is basically a 1.4 106 xsi in a anorexic ax shell 8)
I am yet to see one in NZ. There was a ax 1.6 gt mutant (frankenax) for sale a while back.
I'm currently building a ax vts. I'll update build thread sometime soon
If I knew I was going to be in an accident, I would take the Clio/206 over the 106 :-) Just google a look at some 106 crash pics
Hell I'd take the SAAB over both!
Ax hitting anything = hurts
Also what happened to fastmaths?
Hi--just continuing my investigations
I understand the Citroen Saxo is a pug 106 under another brand
Same?
Enlighten me ye experts
Completely different...
...badges.
Saxo and 106 share same the body
...and engine, gearbox, suspension, interior, electrics...
Badges, grill, headlights and taillights are about the only differences.
And yet according to Top Gear the Pug out shines the Saxo in every way
Ah yes well no-one ever got any sensible buying advice from Top Gear!
To be fair, the interiors aren't identical, and the subtle styling differences do sway people one way or the other. In terms of driving though, there'll be more difference between a good and bad example of either than between the two models generally.
Either car would be great - provided you find a good one. The Saxo VTS/106 GTi are the ones I'd go for.
Thanks
This any good? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=888823838 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=888823838)
Interesting
I think those would be very similar to a 206GTi180?
Heres a review from a member on FF who has owned one;
"It had a noise in the belt drive area that sounded like an idler pulley bearing but turned out to be the water pump bearings. The pump was not leaking and was replaced along with cam belt and drive belts. The only other problem was with the centre high brake light not working. This was a computer problem that could have cost $1,000 for computer replacement but Bishop's managed to cheat the system by running a feed from one of the other brake lights. Total cost was around $155 and it is still working after 18 months or more.
Driving the car the suspension is firm but not overly so, there is always a feeling of being in control and the car has never done anything unpredictable or un expected. That is unless you were the guy in the Ford or Holden that thought he could keep up on the corners (I love French cars). This car is like an AXGT Citroen or a 205 pug thats been to finishing school. It now wears a suit and has manners but you know that if it comes to a bar room brawl it knows how to scrap.
Visibility is probably the biggest issue with this car. The A pillars are huge and sometimes I find myself having to peer around the right hand one when turning into a side street or driveway. C pillars are worse with both rear quaters being quite blind, this is the price you pay for a car that looks like this. I have had enough positive comments about the style and looks to make me think that the price may be worth it.
The biggest issue for passengers may well be access to the rear seat. This would be the worst 3 door car that I have owned when it comes to rear seat access. Inability to open rear windows may also be an issue for some people. However you don't buy a car like this to sit in the back yourself and the aircon is sufficient for the whole car. We travelled Auck New Plymouth return with 4 adults and back seat passengers said leg room comfort etc was fine.
Power? Enough to surprize most challengers and more than the fun police will let you enjoy. Weekend before last I was at the Citroen National Rally Taupo. Sunday we had the use of the track and both of the instructors for the day commented on the ability of the car. One of the instructors did a lap with me on board before making comment. Highlight of the day for me was overtaking a CX Turbo and managing to pull away. That should not have been possible as the CX Turbo is rated at 300 hp and C4 178 so I'm not sure if it was a car or driver issue. He was with the second instructor at the time and that instructor came up when we got back to the pit area and made his comments before coming out with me for my last 2 laps of the day.
At the time of purchase the car was on Nankang tires and I was always happy enough with the way that it handled. The week before the National Rally I had a full set of Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tires fitted with a noticeable improvement in ride and handling.
Fuel consumption is usually around 680k per 60 litre tank round town and I have had the computer tell me that I could get as much as 800 on a trip. That has never happened as boredom sets in and the need to have fun results in a return in the 700k range, this being more or less depending on the fun level. Happy to say it is normal to be less.
Gauges are fine and adjust brightness according to light levels, back light of the rev counter turns red just as you hit the rev limiter and the large digital display speedo sits up where everyone can see it. It is different if it wasn't it wouldn't be Citroen!"
I think I took that car for a test drive a few months ago. Seemed a legit sale, but I think it has a water leak through the scuttle where some cack-handed muppet broke a plastic cover while swapping the pollen filter.
You can't really compare them to driving a 205/106/saxo - they're much more like the more modern and heavy 206. The engine rates well on paper, but the tall gearing and progressive torque delivery in these means the car never feels very fast. For spirited and fun driving I'd take a 106/Saxo over a C4 every time. But for reliable, comfortable and safe motoring the C4 is light years ahead.
Also, LOL at a CX Turbo having 300bhp!
Thanks for all of that...
Really appreciate your comments....
Quote from: rolly on July 16, 2015, 10:58:45 AM
If I knew I was going to be in an accident, I would take the Clio/206 over the 106
Hell I'd take the SAAB over both!
Having flipped a Clio RS (as some of you will recall) I think I can saely say if I'd been in a 106 or AX I'd be dead..
Quote from: aerorobnz on July 17, 2015, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: rolly on July 16, 2015, 10:58:45 AM
If I knew I was going to be in an accident, I would take the Clio/206 over the 106
Hell I'd take the SAAB over both!
Having flipped a Clio RS (as some of you will recall) I think I can saely say if I'd been in a 106 or AX I'd be dead..
Man that was a while back now...
Hey Guy's
This was for sale here on this site
For sale : 1997 Peugeot 106 GTI NZ New - Black 122,000kms
I contacted Peter who is selling it but he is unsure of a price
Anyone have an opinion?
4000?
The last few I have seen have been going for about 3k. including very straight stock ones and nicely modified ones.
Well heres the answer to the price he is looking for. A bit steep if you ask me
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-920452128.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/auction-920452128.htm)
Wow. Cant blame a man for being otpimistic. Lol though.
Look out guys, I hate to say this, but French cars are about to become hip... prices are set to go up.
Looks cool black on black, nice photo!