Hi, Auckland based DS driving Citroenphile. Yes yes I know the D isn't a particularly fast car as you guys might think, but it does do the imperial ton given enough time. Just joined up as I'm interested in what people are doing to their cars.
Cheers
Vince
DS dont need to be fast because they are the coolest cars in the world
pics and details of DS please!
as a fellow D owner I can attest to their potential to sit on the ton quite nicely, given some road.
Welcome welcome dude.
Me likey DS. What sort? Want pics!
DS23 Pallas carb, 5 speed box, vert argente (metallic green), tired interior but not too bad - headlining needs replacement and the rest just a good clean. Sucks fuel like a ferrari so trying to sort a better carby for it through Weber Specialists in Silverdale.. Excellent driving for long steady pace trips and spirited secondary roads. Loses hubcaps when hooning on metal. Not really a city car but will out turn a modern mini. Turning circle like a tricycle. This is my second D and I have a wee program of steady work to do on it. Mostly minor stuff.
My first D was a DSpecial with a 2195cc motor from an earlier recond that I had for 3 years. It was beige vanneau. A very nice original car that I regret selling - for a very short time I owned 2..
Previous to the D's I had a 1991 XM for 8 years which I really enjoyed. It eventually required complete replacement of the front suspension top caps (? - I forget the specific name) and they were worth more than triple the car was.
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I heard XMs are terrible for that.
nice D's!!
Interesting that the 2.3 chugs gas!
Unf... Really nice man
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If you can get better than 20mpg out of a D around town you're doing well! No-one buys one for their fuel economy.
The metallic colours on the DS23 look great! We all have those "I wish I hadn't sold that car" regrets - but I reckon the 23 with a 5-spd is much cooler than a Special!
XMs were known as the Devil's Chariot for a reason. Like the C6, they promised so much, yet disappointed so many...
The funny thing is that I think the DSpecial is a very cool car - very simple interior but quite stylish in its own way. The headlining for example was vinyl - but embossed in a pattern which I've never seen in the 'budget model' of a type. The original thick vinyl floor was in perfect nick having been covered all it's life and reflected the general state of the car. My issue is that it is too preciously original to be a driving car as I wanted. So original and in good condition that anything done to it would have diluted the integrity. They came with very few options, A DSpecial was a DSpecial.
Whereas the Pallas was so optioned that they were pretty much all different! I've seen 3 other vert argente cars and all the roofs were different. Some had leather interiors some had cloth - now add the colour and fabric options.... so there is a greater degree of flexibility without affecting integrity with a Pallas if restoration is in mind - or a bit of hard driving ahem as it were. My insurance lets me get use 8000km per year. and I do. If I didn't have to bus to work it would be a daily driver and I had no hesitation in doing 2500km at xmas. Unfortunately I had to behave with my wife in the car. Most of the time anyway. One white knuckle moment just north of Taupo.. for her that is. I quite enjoy long sweeping bends with miles of visibility and cars to overtake.
my sack has always been really economic.
poor economy might be a short stroke thing.
Quote from: CaM on February 14, 2014, 07:43:00 AM
my sack has always been really economic.
poor economy might be a short stroke thing.
I'm gonna refrain from making the obvious innuendo jokes at your expense... Mr WeberMan tells me that Citroen dropped the ball with the carby for the DS23 and I am inclined to believe it. The Special was 150cc different in capacity - yet half the consumption. The pallas gets 18l per 100km average city driving and 13l/100 highway cruise. Literally 5 - 7 liters more for the same distance compared to the special (11l city and 8l hwy). I once mashed the pedal for a tank and was horrified at the 15l/100km I got. That is now my startup consumption... (ignoring the pure maths of that analogy).
Welcome. Very cool cars.
very interesting!
I upgraded my dad's DS21 Safari to a 23, and the increase in fuel consumption wasn't all that noticeable. But I've always found the 1985cc motor to be much more economical than either of the bigger displacement engines.
I wonder if the EFI cars are any better? Probably not now that their electronic components are over 40 years old...
Wasn't there a twin carb conversion kit offered by Connaught or someone back in the day? Or maybe that was only for the early cars. Either way, a pair of sidedraughts would be interesting on a DS!
Quote from: Mungous on February 14, 2014, 05:50:49 PM
I wonder if the EFI cars are any better? Probably not now that their electronic components are over 40 years old...
Wasn't there a twin carb conversion kit offered by Connaught or someone back in the day? Or maybe that was only for the early cars. Either way, a pair of sidedraughts would be interesting on a DS!
Apparently the EFI are better on the gas but then they should be.. I didn't know about the twin carb conversion and the model that Murray (WeberSpecialities) is offering is the DGV. Not a side-draughtbut immensely tunable so the pundits say. Even to tandeming the butterflys and accelerator pumps. I don't know any of that stuff...
I do want one of those early superchargers. 40% more power I read somewhere. That would be be useable.
Ooh yeah baby!! A supercharger would totally suit a DS too:
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae349/Humungous/81B9C211-109D-42EC-B566-0609D2D62EDD_zpsg2iqierx.jpg)
I found one for sale last year (can't find the link or I'd post it). It was a fully reconditioned Sapelem charger and looked awesome - ready to bolt on. At the asking price of 5000 GBP it was out of my range. Basic research shows that a Suzuki Barina supercharger, fitted in Japan or the States, had much the same specs as the original accessory - though I guess any specialist supercharging outfit would be able to sort something fairly readily.
Of interest to me was the magnetic clutch which could be operated as and when required. Tootle around town and then surprise the boy racers...